tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7460851571985771047.post7298404322099905268..comments2024-01-23T08:36:56.787-08:00Comments on Erebus & Terror Files: Return to Poctes BayPeter Carneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11720739633773324546noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7460851571985771047.post-31811436544615469482022-10-28T14:00:41.723-07:002022-10-28T14:00:41.723-07:00The 1850 map in John Rae's narrative renders t...The 1850 map in John Rae's narrative renders the name as "Poets Bay", not singular, not possessive.Randall Osczevskinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7460851571985771047.post-8522964217535937202014-08-03T23:22:29.659-07:002014-08-03T23:22:29.659-07:00I know that it would be more congruent with the pa...I know that it would be more congruent with the pattern followed if Poctes were another name of a poet, but, it is tempting to think that if the name given to that bay was actually "Poet´s bay" that could be the name of a bay of Italy very well known in England by that time. The place is described in the link below this lines in this way: <br /><br />"The land, situated on the coastline between two blue crystal clear bays, had already sparked the attention of the romantic English writers back at the beginning of the 1800's for the intense blue color of its waters and its pink colored sand." <br /><br />Perhaps something in the pristine waters of that area inspired some of the Rosses to christen this bay as Poet´s Bay.<br /><br />Anyway I don´t know any direct relation between Poet´s bay and any of the Rosses, at least not phisically, who knows if any close acquaintance or relationship of any of both could bring any further clue.<br /><br />http://www.dictamundi.net/video/BonbonsvideoLericiA.htmlAndrés Paredeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17283802897907742244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7460851571985771047.post-55875440605140591572014-08-02T06:06:12.257-07:002014-08-02T06:06:12.257-07:00I was wondering how the Beaufort Islands became th...I was wondering how the Beaufort Islands became the Clarence Islands. Thanks for the link. Interesting that Sir John Ross, who never saw the islands turned the three islands mapped by John Clark Ross into eight for political reasons by adding five imaginary ones. Oddly, there actually are more than three Clarence Islands; perhaps as many as eleven, depending on how one defines what is an island and what is a sand bank.Randall Osczevskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09858473343619938440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7460851571985771047.post-29989455372722964732014-08-01T13:38:04.971-07:002014-08-01T13:38:04.971-07:00Great to hear from you Glenn, and I can't wait...Great to hear from you Glenn, and I can't wait to see your new work.Peter Carneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11720739633773324546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7460851571985771047.post-66387142426144361662014-08-01T13:17:36.574-07:002014-08-01T13:17:36.574-07:00Peter, here's a link to an 1859 magazine artic...Peter, here's a link to an 1859 magazine <a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=G69SAAAAcAAJ&dq=%22Poet%27s+Bay%22+Ross&pg=PA365#v=onepage&q=%22Poet's%20Bay%22%20Ross&f=false" rel="nofollow">article</a> which names the place directly y as "Poet's Bay"Russell Potterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11023313195827310776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7460851571985771047.post-7973802576016376832014-08-01T13:15:55.879-07:002014-08-01T13:15:55.879-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Russell Potterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11023313195827310776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7460851571985771047.post-25966198187775526132014-08-01T12:21:55.224-07:002014-08-01T12:21:55.224-07:00This all makes sense -- surely "Poets Bay&quo...This all makes sense -- surely "Poets Bay" is a very reasonable conjecture, with much to support it. "Poctes," so far as I have been able to find, is almost nowhere known at the time outside of this chart; as a surname it's extraordinarily scarce, with only three persons -- all Hungarians -- with the name in the entire LDS genealogical database.<br /><br />That said, it would be better still if we could have some authority -- some manuscript reference by JC Ross would be ideal! -- I've checked everything I can find, with no luck so far. Some of Ross's journals, but not the detailed one of his westward journey to Victory Point, have been published; the map left by the Rosses at Fury Beach has been published, but has no detailed names.Russell Potterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11023313195827310776noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7460851571985771047.post-66493630558330225982014-08-01T05:39:32.842-07:002014-08-01T05:39:32.842-07:00All very interesting, Peter. I can well relate ho...All very interesting, Peter. I can well relate how difficult it can be to deal with geographical place names in the polar regions. In fact, for this very reason, I felt compelled to create a separate appendix in my forthcoming book on the 1850-54 voyage of HMS "Investigator" with some notes on map features.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com